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[B]小弟潛水已久,最近入了一台AU-D907給老丈人圓以前無法擁有的夢,請問各位大大,D907要配幾瓦的降壓器?是500W就夠了還是要到1000W?

謝謝了. [/B]


我是用2000 W  []

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[B]家裡有台B-77 C-77 有時候左聲道會沒聲音,以及插件都有氧化,請問各位前輩,這還有修的價值嗎?
這台好像都沒人討論... [/B]


曾經玩過~ 標準型前後級 , 主要還是您有多少預算 !

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[B]小弟潛水已久,最近入了一台AU-D907給老丈人圓以前無法擁有的夢,請問各位大大,D907要配幾瓦的降壓器?是500W就夠了還是要到1000W?

謝謝了. [/B]


請問一下,你是花了幾張小朋友入手的?在哪兒買到的?目前聲音狀況如何?

我最近也在找古典(古董又經典)的山水機[]

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發表於 2017-11-9 21:08:21 | 顯示全部樓層

Sansui AU 4900

各位大哥 我有一台 Sansui AU 4900 擴大機 電源無法開啟 請問台北哪裡有師傅可以維修 謝謝!

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發表於 2017-11-25 21:10:04 | 顯示全部樓層

AU-D907來報到了

日本Y拍後,經過一個月的等待,昨天終於接到通知,今天上午就到台北大安郵局去辦清關,交了關稅後把它抱回家。

外觀很乾淨,很新。不過對於新接手的古董機,一切還是小心點比較好,用了自製的Dim Bulb Tester接上去,開機燈泡亮了一下就暗掉,好現象。繼電器動作了,另外一個好現象。[]

插電15分鐘暖機後,音量調整到最小,用電錶量測輸出端子的DC Offset。右邊6.5mV,相當好。左邊23.5mV,差強人意。

然後接上喇叭,接上訊號線,就一直聽音樂到現在。

日本人還是蠻誠實的,東西跟Y拍上面描述得蠻接近的。

今天就不折騰了,等聽一陣子之後再來把它脫光光。[]

我也算正式加入山水俱樂部。[]



















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發表於 2017-11-28 22:15:19 | 顯示全部樓層

D907脫光光

週末聽它,覺得聲音好像跟我之前的Sony差不多,一則以喜,一則以憂。喜的是長了木耳,不用去追求發燒級的設備,憂的是我這D907是不是壞了。

下載了維修手冊,準備好三用電錶,就把它脫了。

首先巡一遍,內部算乾淨,沒積太多灰塵,所有東西都是原裝的,沒看到燒焦的痕跡也沒發現鼓包或漏液的電解電容,這就放心多了。

然後開機暖機,聽了半小時左右的音樂後,照著手冊的步驟,一張張板子的調整。果然,什麼都偏了,最誇張的應該是Bias,規格是20+/-1mV,結果左右兩channel都是近40mV。

這裡建議如果想自己調整的人,務必準備一支小的一字起子,最好是塑膠柄,然後把頭用熱縮套管包起來,只露出一點點。因為調整必須是在開機的狀態下,這支起子是要穿過很多零件到VR去的,包起來安全點。

調整好,然後順便把面板上那些控制鈕啊鍵的都用接點復活劑清一遍。

簡單整理一番後,開機,果然不同凡響[]  雖然我是木耳,但也聽得出山水音還是比Sony好多了。[8D] [8D] [8D]

不多說了,上圖









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有人搭這套嗎?

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發表於 2017-12-9 12:51:55 | 顯示全部樓層
大家好

小弟一直潛水中
受益良多
多謝各位大大

偶然搜到一個網站
覺得有意思
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http://www.tube-amps.net

若大家早已閱得
請見諒我的孤陋寡聞



Sansui in Early Days

According to the publication I have obtained from Mr. Kuniyasu Motoki who was a manager of the Sansui Retirement Foundation, a founder of later Sansui Electric Co., Mr. Kohsaku Kikuchi, worked for a radio parts distributor in Tokyo before and during the World War II.  Due to the poor quality of radio parts Mr. Kikuchi had to deal with, Mr. Kikuchi decided to start his private radio part manufacturer facility, Sansui Electrical Plant in December 1944 in Yoyogi, Tokyo.  He picked transformers as his initial product line, and his thought process was "Even with higher prices, lets make the higher quality of products.  Eventually, the products will establish the reputation, and get the business going."   

In 1947, Mr. Kikuchi founded Sansui Electric Co., in order to raise the funds to expand his business.  The initial capital of Sansui Electric was 180,000 Yen ( $500.00 US at that time) with 10 employees.  In this year, Sansui produced Power, Input/Output, Transformers, and Choke Coils with more than 10 different product lines.

By 1952, Sansui started manufacturing voltage stabilizers in addition to more than 40 different models of transformers with 52 employees.

In 1954, Sansui started manufacturing Pre-Amp, Main-Amp kits as well as finished amp models.  According to one of the original Sansui executive, "By improving transformer quality and technologies, our goal was raised to reproduce better and more musical sound ."  Sansui counted 99 employees in this year.

By 1956, Sansui started manufacturing tube receivers, and in 1958, Sansui introduced the first stereo tube pre-amp, SP-220 and stereo main amp, Q-3535.  Around this period, Sansui started exporting to oversees, and Mr. Kikuchis goal was "to build hi-fi products better than those from Fisher or Scott."

The first stereo pre-main amplifier, SM-88 and the first stereo receiver SM-20 was introduced in 1959 with 597 employees.  Sansui also constructed a new plant in Saitama that was for meeting the transformer demand for transistor applications.  

In 1961, Sansui was enlisted on the second section of Tokyo Stock Exchange, and the brand name, "Sansui" was registered in the United States.  Sansui counted 885 employees by this year, and the company capital was raised to 150,000,000 Yen ( $417,000 at that time).

Before 1963, Sansui had introduced more than 40 different tube amplifiers and receivers, and in 1963, Sansui introduced the 500 and the 1000 Tube Receiver for exporting followed by the 500A and the 1000A (SAX-1000) in 1964.  These receivers helped to secure Sansuis financial foundations in early days, and established Sansuis reputation at oversees.  Especially, the 1000A receiver was continued to be exported until the early 1970s with more than 10 known revisions.  Sansui also introduced 15 high-end hi-fi tube transformers in 1963 directly resulted from the 20 years of continuous RD and quality improvement.

In addition to the SAX Receiver Series, the AU-70 Tube Integrated Amplifier and the TU-70 Stereo AM/FM Tuner were introduced in 1964.  Sansuis tube technology master piece, the tube integrated amplifier AU-111 was introduced in 1965 and the AU-111 won the reputation as one of the best tube amplifiers ever built in Japan.  Sansui continued producing the AU-111 into the early 1970s and reissued into two different models in 1999 and 2001.  1965 was also the year Sansui started exporting the first transistor receiver TR-707A, and  Sansui became an exclusive dealer for JBL in Japan.

The first speaker systems, the SP-100 and the SP-200 were introduced in 1966, and this was the year Sansui established Sansui Electronics Corp. in New York City.  The last tube control amplifier CA-303, the last power amplifiers, BA-202 and BA-303 (until the middle of 1990s) were introduced in 1967.  These tube amplifiers are less known than other units; however, they were very ambitious products, and had significant influences toward later tube amplifier designs.  This was also a year Sansui introduced the first Silicon Transistor Integrated Amplifier, AU-777 that became the instant best seller, and the first record player SR-4040.

In 1968, Mr. Kikuchi emphasized the company philosophy, "Being independent without outsourcing"; in return, Sansui halted the OEM transformer production for other company.  This was the first step to reform the company into a finished product manufacturer rather than being a parts supplier.            

In 1969, Sansui raised capital to 1,200,000,000 Yen ( $3.3 Million), and following year 1970, Sansui was enlisted in the first part of Tokyo and Osaka Stock Exchanges with 1699 employees.  Sansui established Sansui Audio Europe in Belgium, and introduced the top of the line Integrated Amplifier AU-999 and the first 4ch Synthesizer QS-1.  In this year, Sansui also introduced the first pure complementary integrated amplifier, the AU-666 that marked the beginning of the modern transistor amplifier design.

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歐洲出來一套9500, 開價900歐唉

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發表於 2018-6-10 17:28:03 | 顯示全部樓層
原發表者是 hsiehinjesus
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山水應該不會解析力不足.
山水的電路設計功力成就非凡.
山水的X系列比Pass的X系列早出了十年.
查一查607X的電路,比對之下就能瞭解Pass的X架構跟山水是非常"近似"的.
差別只在於Pass把放大電路改成單級,gain極小,推力反倒可能不如山水.
認真要講,山水根本才是X電路的祖師.領先世界十年之久.
山水也很早就知道調聲的細節要領,所以有所謂的山水之聲.
山水走下陂是被財務拖垮........因為山水不肯把生產線外移.
而日圓大漲之後的日本製造成本太高,競爭不過那些工廠外移的廠商.
可以說是一場反淘汰的受害者.
只能說殘念~
懷念山水,也尊敬山水的工程師. [/B]
山水並不是沒有外移..它在台灣就是台南的永福電器代工的.一些綜擴及cd等現在還有蹤跡出現..一個企業成敗有很多因素..不能單一論成敗...
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